Let me first fill you all in on some of the back story:
As most of you probably know I am very close to a few of our neighbors. One of my very best friends lives across the street and to the south and then I have another very good friend that lives across the street and to the north. Between them is the house that this particular story is about.
When we moved in here we met some neighbors, but mostly we kept to ourselves. We did talk to the guy that lives directly to our south (who since then has become a surrogate grandpa to my kids...just a really great guy) and we had a few "conversations" with the man and woman who lived directly across from us. These conversations consisted mostly of him scolding us for parking on the street where it was hard for him to back his truck out of the driveway. After we had Natalie and then about a year later they had their son, the woman and I began talking a little bit more. If we both happened to be outside at the same time we would meet in my yard and let the kids play. One day she was over on our porch while the kids were playing around and the man was in his yard shoveling up stickers. Apparently the dogs needed out and instead of just putting down his shovel he yelled across the street that she needed to come let them out. Now, if it was me or any of my friends we would have laughed and told our husbands to do it their own selves. It would have been more of a joke than anything. But she asked if I could keep an eye on her son and ran over, let the dogs out, waiting while they did their business, and then let them back in. Then she came back over to get her kid. This one interaction showed me so much about the relationship between these two people. He was the one in charge and she followed his orders. It made me sick. And it just got worse and worse until two years ago it completely blew up.
She had moved into a trailer they both owned and he was still at the house here in the neighborhood. From all the stories (from their mouths directly and other neighbors) he thought she was cheating on him and so he went over and beat the crap out of her. She of course filed charges and he was due for a court date. On that day I woke up and looked outside and there were at least ten cop cars, cops running down the street with guns drawn, and just pure craziness going on. He ended up committing suicide in his bedroom with some kind of gun.
This brings me up to yesterday. The house recently sold and the closing date is Tuesday. The couple that bought it were there yesterday painting and doing various repairs. I was out front with the girls while they played with Vanessa's new bubble mower. They said hi when they were about ready to leave and so we all stopped to introduce ourselves and talk a while. I was telling them what great neighbors we have and that this was a pretty nice neighborhood. Then they asked me if I knew the people that lived in their house before them. I didn't know what to say. I didn't want to completely freak them out. If I had just bought a house and found out that the guy who lived there before me had killed himself in what was going to be my bedroom I would feel uncomfortable to say the least. So I said I kind of knew them but that they "weren't around" for long after we moved here. So I was so ambiguous. And I know I sounded weird because I was all "uhhhh....", "well....", and there were several awkward pauses while I decided what to say.
What would you have done? Would you have come straight out and told them? Would you never tell them and just kind of hope that it never came out (which is not a very promising prospect considering we have yearly block parties and some of us hang out regularly...and I'm sorry that is one of the most bizarre things that I have ever experienced and we do still talk about that day)? Would it make you mad if someone could have told you a few days before closing but didn't?
After I talked to them I ran inside and told Larry of my dilemma and he just kind of grinned in a way that told me he was happy it wasn't him out there. I also called my neighbor friend and asked her opinion. She pretty much backed me up, but I think she was glad she wasn't out there too! It was just so uncomfortable. I'm sorry this has turned into such a long post, but I hope to get some good advice before the next time I see this couple.
Monday, June 30, 2008
An umcomfortable situation
Posted by Loni at 10:55 AM
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5 comments:
wow. wasn't there a weird hole in one of the rooms? I don't want to get in the middle, but if they stay for a long time and find out later they might have hard feelings. Would you???
Man this is hard. I could never live in a house that that had happened.
Good luck, and I know I didn't help out. Sorry.
Sometimes what you don't know, won't hurt you. (as long as no one finds out) ha ha
you know, i have no idea what to tell you either. there's a house where my parents live and the man shot himself there and everyone in briarcliff talked about it for years. i know every time i come back to kansas i think of it when i drive by and it's just very sad. surely the family knows by now, but i have no idea how they feel about it. also, my baby nephew passed away at my house in michigan about two years ago now, and i will say every time i go into basement, i get very sad. i'm reminded of him when i go there and that's a very, very sad thing. i don't really know if it's something that the neighbors talk about still, but i hope the next family that lives there doesn't have to hear about it. like you said, it's just a very uncomfortable thing, and i don't think i'd want to know if i were moving in. no, i don't think i would. good luck my darling. i hope you have some nice new neighbors though.
I think you handled the situation rather well. You didn't lie, you didn't 'know' the people and that is what the person asked. It is not your obligation or responsibility to inform every person inquiring about the house of the history surrounding it. I wouldn't have told them either.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, what if you mentioned it to them, they already knew about it, so now you're viewed as the neighborhood gossip queen... Just think of like this...if that chance meeting between you hadn't happened...they still wouldn't have known.
You deffinitely can not feel bad or guilty for not telling. Thats my 2 cents anyway...
I always thought the realtor had to inform buyers of something like that... maybe that's why they were asking about the people that lived there before .?.?....I think you handled it fine.
Brie
I agree with Brie...I think the realtor has to disclose if there has been a death in the home, but I don't know for sure. My dad would know, but he's in Florida. We'll ask him when he gets home. :o)
I think you did just fine!
Blessings-Andie
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